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Resurrecting the Quagga: an interview with Kate Noakes

interviewed by Judi Sutherland

Today, Eyewear launches two new books in London: Night Journey by Richard Lambert, and Cape Town by Kate Noakes. Pop by for the launch if you’re around – details, including time & place, can be found here. Dr Fulminare whets your appetite for the event by publishing an exchange with Kate Noakes, interviewed for you by Judi Sutherland. Enjoy!



Kate Noakes is a poet who lives a two-centre life. For twelve days in every fortnight, she is a partner in a major law firm in Paris; for the other two, she is a wife and mum at her family home in Reading. Happily, she still finds time to write.

How did life get so complicated?

It wasn’t supposed to be like this; I was made redundant from my UK job due to the financial crisis.  The options open to me were all based abroad, so I took up a role in South Africa with a view to bringing my family out to join me, but things didn’t go according to plan. I couldn’t go out on my own; I even had to join a hiking group to discover the walking trails around Table Mountain. The concierge in my apartment block was an armed guard. After making a tough decision, I quit my job and came home, and then I found a role as a partner in a major law firm in Paris.

But your experience in South Africa was good for your writing…

Yes, it was poetically very fruitful; my new collection Cape Town, out in October from Eyewear, is all about my time in Africa. One of the images in the book is of the swallow, migrating from Europe to follow the sun. In the prologue, ‘Hirundine’, it is me, broken-winged, heading south to heal in the African summer. The collection is then bookended by two poems about ‘fairyland’ the nickname for Cape Town’s District Six, which was cleared of its mixed-race population and demolished under the Group Areas Act, and is now resurfacing as Zonnenbloem – the sunflower. Another animal presence recurs in the poems; that of the quagga, an extinct native species similar to the zebra, which ecologists are now trying to re-breed from near relatives.  It stands for South Africa itself – is it extinct, or can it be resurrected? Does it have a viable future?

It’s a collection in three parts; how do they fit together?

The first part of the collection is all about finding myself in a new place on my own, and being disappointed and scared. The second section is more overtly political. Post-Apartheid South Africa is complicated, politically; you think you know all about it but you don’t, even though, in the Apartheid era I was involved in boycotts and marches. The final section describes me wrestling with the decision to leave a beautiful place and a rewarding job. It is a wonderful country, and I hope my poems about the wildlife and landscape show an appreciation of that, but the violence, the aggressive begging, the muggings at knifepoint and gunpoint… if something is going to happen to you in South Africa, it’s going to be bad. The ugly side of Cape Town life features in the poems, for example in ‘Green-and-yellow blanket man, Long Street’ I write about being abused by a street beggar, and in ‘Limpopo’ I describe the flight of Zimbabwean refugees across the river to South Africa, and an uncertain future.

How is your current career move going?

It has proved to be more sustainable! I’m really happy in Paris, and it is close enough by Eurostar to allow frequent visits by my husband, Paul, who is a teacher, and my two daughters, and to allow me to come home regularly to Reading, from where I keep up my poetic contacts in the UK. There’s also a great Anglophone Spoken Word scene in Paris, and I’ve got involved in a regular Monday poetry night (http://spokenwordparis.com), which attracts Paris-based writers, students, and poets just passing through.  Not having to cook for and look after my family during the week, I’ve also got time to write in the evenings.

And I hear there’s a novel afoot?

I don’t want to say a lot about it, but it is a contemporary story, set in London, of a rich family in the current financial crisis.  The protagonist is an anti-hero, an obnoxious man whose redeeming feature is that he is very funny.  He shares the narrative with his wife – who is a much more interesting character. Predictably, for an accountant, I’ve got the plot, and the changes in point of view, all mapped out on a spreadsheet.

Tell me about the Welsh thing.

Although I was born in Guildford, I identify as being Welsh by nature and nurture, and I am proud that among my ancestors is the 18th century bard Sion Llewelyn. I studied for an MPhil in English Literature at the University of Glamorgan, tutored by Gillian Clarke, and I’m an elected member of the Welsh Academi. I am pleased that Welsh-speakers see a distinct Welsh turn of phrase to the language I use in my poems. My Welsh heritage has not yet emerged in the subjects of my poetry, but the poems are still coming. There’s a collection for 2013 in the works, titled I-spy and Shanty, from Cardiff-based Mulfran Press.

I have to ask about the tattoo project.  What started that?

About ten years ago, I got talking to a woman with multiple tattoos in Yosemite, California. I asked her about their meaning and significance, but the conversation didn’t materialise as writing until last summer, when, in a sandwich shop in Bristol, I spotted a man with a jigsaw puzzle piece tattooed on his arm, and started wondering whether his girlfriend might have a similar piece that fitted. Over the last year or so I’ve written no fewer than fifty-eight poems on the subject of tattoos, and there may be more. Six of the poems are in the current edition of Envoi, where I am a featured poet, and another two in the latest Prolemagazine. I hope they will form a new collection. It isn’t the permanence of tattoos that inspires me, or the aspect of rebellion. It’s simply that they can look very beautiful. They are usually incredibly significant to their owners, and they often memorialise someone. The poems sometimes reflect the design’s significance in a human story, or may simply use the image as a jumping-off point.

The obvious question; have you ever been inked yourself?

Er… no. For a partner in a firm of lawyers, it might prove just a little career-limiting.

Interviewed by Judi Sutherland. Kate Noakes’ third collection, Cape Town, is published by Eyewear. The launch is taking place tonight in London; if you wish to attend, details can be found here

Alaska Quarterly Review


I have a new poem, ‘Lightning Conductor’, published in the second of two special 30th anniversary issues of the Alaska Quarterly Review! Maybe this is the year I break America. </delusion>

Many thanks to guest editor Todd Boss for asking me to submit something. Other poets published in the rather hefty issue include ex-US poet laureate Kay Ryan, Billy Collins and the UK’s own Lorraine Mariner.

Catechism: Poems for Pussy Riot

In protest at the disproportionate and injust incarceration of three members of Russian punk band Pussy Riot, and as a gesture of solidarity with Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, Maria Alyokhina and Yekaterina Samutsevich, the magnificent English PEN have released Catechism: Poems for Pussy Riot. Commissioned, curated and edited by UK poets Mark Burnhope, Sarah Crewe and Sophie Mayer, this collection has drawn together a huge range of writers, asked them to pen responses to the situation and then encouraged said poets to pose in balaclavas in support of perhaps the three most famous devotchkas out there right now. The resulting anthology has been flagged up by the US Poetry Foundation and The Guardian, and continues to grow in stature and support. With contributions from as far afield as Kenya and Austria, Catechism has become a borderless project, uniting poets from across the globe. Indeed, many translators have stepped up to provide Russian versions of the poems. A group of the poets involved conducted a protest outside the Russian Embassy in London on 1 October, on what was originally scheduled as the girls’ appeal date (since moved to 10 October). You can see videos of that protest here, as captured by contributor S. J. Fowler:

 

New Pussy Riot poems are being posted on the English PEN website every day. Catechism is available in e-book format for a donation and in sexy hard copy for a mere £7.95 plus p&p. You can also follow English PEN on Twitter (@englishpen) and search by the hashtag #freepussyriot for further updates on the case.

The Return of Irregular Features!

Our features and reviews section is alive and kicking once more from this moment on. Under the editorship of ‘The Judge’, a raft of new reviewers will be setting their critical sights on new and recently released poetry books, with a new review going up every Sunday. Features will be posted on Wednesdays but may be a little more intermittent.

The first of the reviews is up now and sees our reviews editor taking on Sam Riviere’s 81 Austerities.

The Parrish Lantern reviews ‘School of Forgery’

A new review of School of Forgery is up at The Parrish Lantern blog. Gary Moon, the reviewer, writes:

“… beneath all that artifice, beneath the games there is a candour that resonates, a passion that hooks you in past the word-bothering puzzles and clever facade, past the glitter-ball and the wizard of Oz contrivances, you find the poet, obsessed with language, and who has the ability to use it, not just as poetic gesture but with a depth, a strangeness and a beauty that beguiles.” 

Thanks, Parrish Lantern!

YPN August Challenge draws to a close

The final of my 15 simple/weird formal exercises is up on Young Poets’ Network today and the deadline for mini-collection submissions is tomorrow!

Here, then, to recap are the 15 challenges, with examples by yours truly:

1. Bookshelf Poem
2. Squid Poem
3. Censorship Poem
4. Helicopter Poem
5. Skeleton Poem
6. Jungle Trail Poem
7. Hollywood Remake Poem
8. U-Boat Poem
9. DVD Extra Poem
10. Manga Poem
11. Scoop! Poem
12. Google Search Poem
13. Vampire Aubade
14. Earthquake Poem
15: Chinese Whisper Poem

Poets for Pussy Riot

Both Kirsty and I will be reading at this next week in support of the imprisoned members of Russian punk band Pussy Riot.

Poets for Pussy Riot
Wednesday August 29th 2012  – 7pm until late – Free entrance
at the Rich mix arts centre, main space venue,
35-47 Bethnal Green Road, London E1 6LA             020 7613 7498      
With the news that Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, Maria Alyokhina and Yekaterina Samutsevich of the Russian punk collective, Pussy Riot, were sentenced to two years in prison for a wholly necessary and valid political protest, contemporary poets in London will come together in a unique evening of readings, featuring original poetry and text, as well as the words of Pussy Riot themselves. This event is an act of solidarity through the medium of poetry – a celebration of the courage and spirit of fellow writers of this generation, writing for real political change in a country that needs it.
Featuring readings from over 30 poets including Tim Atkins, David Berridge, Becky Cremin, Kirsty Irving, Francesca Lisette, Chris McCabe, Reza Mohammadi, Sandeep Parmar, Tom Raworth, Jack Underwood, James Wilkes and many others. 
Email: steven@sjfowlerpoetry.com for further details

Self-esteem tips from beautiful rich people

I’ve been out of the loop musically for a while now, so forgive me picking up on a two-year-old song, but what spell has Katy Perry cast over the internet that I can’t find a single angry review of ‘Firework’?

Perry seems to have rehabilitated herself since the days of ‘I Kissed A Girl’ (slammed by Gossip singer Beth Ditto as a “boner dyke anthem”) and the ridiculously-defended ‘UR So Gay’, and decided that the real PR gold lies in Aguilera Hills. Xtina’s 2002 song ‘Beautiful’ basically did ‘Firework’ with a stronger vocal range eight years prior to Perry’s effort.

Let’s compare the two videos:

Beautiful (2002)
Negative female body image (skinny girl examining self in mirror)
Negative male body image (skinny boy lifting weights, surrounded by pictures of muscular men)
Bullying
Gay kiss
Suggested transgender issues (not clear whether the cross-dressing guy is meant to be a transvestite or a transgender woman)

Firework (2010)
Negative female body image (girl at pool party afraid to take off robe around her skinny friends)
Childhood cancer (how a bouncy pop song is supposed to help you cope with that, I ain’t sure)
Gay kiss
White gay getting mugged by group of mixed-race men (hmm, really breaking down the barriers here) and using – get this – magic tricks to see them off. Sound advice for urban dwellers.

So I guess let’s start with the kiss in each case. I was never a Christina fan and lyrically ‘Beautiful’ is still cloying and self-helpy in that all-American way, but hell, at least it was written by someone who understood what it was like to be gay. At the time, the video did piss some people off, for no reason other than that the kiss between two men was passionate and sustained. Aguilera has not been averse to the odd faux-gay stunt (snogging Madonna onstage with Britney while wearing a sexy wedding frock was particularly cynical), but this, as saccharine as it was, felt sincere. Aguilera herself never comes into contact with the characters, singing from a bare room while the action goes on outside.

In contrast, the characters in Perry’s video, watched over by their firework-boobed guardian angel, seem chucked in to show that KATY PERRY CARES ABOUT UGLY PEOPLE AND CANCER CHILDREN. All they need is her singing and pyrotechnics to teach them not to care that people want to kill them, or leukaemia wants to kill them, or that muggers want to kill them, or that they want to kill themselves. Don’t be a downer! Come and boogie your knife wounds away!

Perhaps if Perry herself had at least appeared in the video without a trace of makeup, it would have been a start towards sincerity or solidarity with the girl suffering low self-esteem, but no, she’s painted, coiffed and gowned, placed above them all as a guidance figure and ultimately assuming a role of superiority in magically granting them the self-confidence to rise above their situation. It’s dishonest. Life, our bodies and our minds simply do not work like that.

Money does, though, and brand awareness. And yes, both parties can be accused of this. Xtina got to reinvent the ‘Dirrrty’ version of herself with a serious ballad, just as Perry got to sing a clubworthy tune to try and get the gay community back on side after her unapologetic blunders. ‘Firework’ is more obviously cynical though, trying to crowbar serious issues into a jaunty soundtrack from an outsider’s perspective. Gaga’s ‘Born This Way’ did a similar thing, the difference being that that was worked more as a defiant call to arms than hurling a copy of Chicken Soup for the Soul at people in varying states of despair. ‘Born This Way’ and ‘Beautiful’ are, crucially, sung from a first-person perspective, placing empathy high on the agenda, not forgetting our problems with a big bowl of strawberry ice cream.

Following Ditto’s criticism, Katy Perry said that it was “tacky” to criticise someone else’s music. It’s not. That’s how progress is made. It’s tacky to colonise the suffering of other people in a 2-D way in order to make money.

Out of Hours reading – 19 August at Ham House




In possibly the grandest location we’ve experienced yet (seriously check it out in that picture there!), Jon and I will be joining the ever-awesome James Wilkes, whose neuroscience-based poetry has been meddling with our minds of late, at a rather glamorous reading at Ham House.




That’s right. On Sunday 19 August at 5.30pm, we’ll be descending on this beautiful National Trust property for Out of Hours, a seriously refined evening of poetry, music and performance. Well, we’ll shoot for refined, but we lost our one comb weeks ago and it’s a devil’s own job getting knots out with a shark’s jaw.

Come on down for an eclectic goody bag of entertainment!

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